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Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1

September 28, 2009

First, allow me to say I am not particularly fond of multi-part blog posts because quite frankly, my attention span is simply not that long. The appeal of writing a blog like this is being able to jump from topic to topic and have virtually no limitations or restrictions. However in this case, I was certain I could not do an adequate job on this topic in one post, unless it was much too long for anyone to be willing to read. I hope you will bear with me, trust you will find it worth your time, and come back for Part 2.

Some who know me as a lifelong distributor of packaging products may say I cannot possible write on this topic and be impartial. To the contrary, as a distributor with a firm grip on reality and the obvious, I think I have learned and accepted over time, where a distributor like us belongs as well as where we don’t. I can tell you that on many occasions, I have suggested to an end-user customer or prospect that their interest may be better served dealing directly with a factory or a converter.

The Who’s Who and What’s What in Packaging

I know some of my converter friends will disagree but in my opinion, unless you create a product from beginning to end, you are not a true manufacturer. In the packaging industry, a manufacturer is typically able to take a raw material, for example plastic resin, extrude it into a film and put it up on rolls ready for shrink wrapping, over wrapping, stretch wrapping for whatever the film product and packaging application requires. They may also be making rolls of film to be sent to a converter/printer, for example, to be converted into printed, plastic bags.

A similar example in the corrugated industry is an integrated plant able to create corrugated sheets from pulp and form them into boxes, trays, pads, etc. They may also be creating sheets of corrugated board to be converted into finished products at what the industry refers to as a sheet plant. Typically, a converter/sheet plant makes boxes or other finished product but they do not make corrugated board.

When Is Working Directly With a Manufacturer the Best Option?
The answer is a little more complicated than this, but for me the short and final answer is as follows: When the end user customer knows what they need, how to buy it, the volume is substantial and it is shipping to one or just a few locations.

In most cases manufacturers do indeed offer the best prices but not always. End user customers are sometimes surprised at how price competitive converters or even distributors can be, in some specific situations and on certain products.

Material cost is typically less than half of the price of any packaging product, and the balance is usually shipping costs and labor. A converter with the right equipment may be more efficient than a large manufacturer on a short run so their overall production cost is lower and they can give a customer (or distributor) a better price. Remember, any producer’s ability to be price competitive depends almost entirely on the capabilities and efficiencies of the equipment they have available to run the job.

A distributor may be price competitive with a manufacturer in situations where the customer’s service requirements make logistics and shipping costs a greater percentage of the overall cost. For example, an end user customer may use a million pounds of polyethylene film per year but if it has to be delivered in small quantities on a next day basis from time of release, to twenty different plants scattered around the country, there are few manufacturers willing or able to efficiently handle that business. Buying in large quantities and selling/delivering it in smaller quantities is what distributors do.

“Blow and Go”
When I first heard this term from a corrugated mill representative, I assumed it was an industry obscenity. I soon found out that it referred to the way a corrugated manufacturing plant processes paper and corrugated board. Even the way a plant is typically laid out proves it is designed to have pulp come in one door on one end of the plant and leave the opposite end as finished boxes, sheets, etc., sometimes within a matter of hours. A good, productive plant does not count boxes or bundles but its’ productivity is measured in tons or truckloads. It has to maximize its efficiencies which means understanding which types of jobs fly through the system and which create bottle necks or jam ups. There is no time, and in most cases no room, for delay, complications, hand work or make and hold programs.

If an order is in a plant’s “sweet spot” it can be amazingly efficient and the price usually reflects that. If it does not fit into that sweet spot, it is usually farmed out to a smaller company owned plant or maybe even a friendly converter/sheet plant.

Some of My Best Friends Are Manufacturers
Manufacturers have tremendous resources, talented and knowledgeable people and industry insight that is simply not available to us with broader based interests.

For a distributor like our company, manufacturers are suppliers as well as competitors though by agreement the overlap is minimal and rare. We agreed to not sell Kraft, P&G and the other major CPG companies and they agree to not go after our box customers who operate their businesses out of their homes. I’m not sure it was a fair agreement but it seems to be working, so far.

Come back next week to read where packaging product converters and distributors can present the best value.

Photo by: thegirlsmoma

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Posted by Dennis Salazar on September 28, 2009 | Comments (5)

October 14, 2009
In response to: Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1
Dennis Salazar commented:

Thank you Bill and Sare and this is exactly the type of feedback I hoped for. Part 2 will probaly post no later than Monday and I hope to hear back from both of you. I appreciate the comments and agree with most of what was said, especially the statement about some distributors not hacving a firm grip on their role versus their margin expectations. Dennis


October 13, 2009
In response to: Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1
Bill Lanham commented:

Dennis, I agree that in many cases a distributor plays a vital function in the supply chain. Having spend many years managing a paper and packaging distribution company and now managing a value add converter company my frustration comes in when distributors want to function as a broker and yet try to work on margins unreasonable for thier function. This is particularly difficult in medium to large accounts they are competing with direct converters or manufactures of product. There is also difficulties when there has not been a reasonable trust level established between the distributer and the converter/manufacture and they try to keep us at arms length from the customer. If value added flexible packaging there are a tremendous amount of details and specific understandings of applications and equipment use in the end users process that can cause miscommunications and costly mistakes. There is also the issue of expertise and knowledge. In many cases I have found that the distributor markets thousands of items and the field sales people can not and are not well versed in the potential problems with designing and recommending the best solution to the end users true needs. We have had successful experiences with distributors when there was a colaberation between the converter/manufacture, customer and distributor and there is a clear understanding by the customer what the roll and function of the distributor is in the projects or applications. That roll is to buy in bulk, warehouse the product, control inventory and service the daily needs of the actual supply of the item. Not to stereotype all distribution companies but to often they lose sight of their true function in search for the added profit margins they desire. There is a place for all of us in the supply of product and being reasonable with profit distribution and supporting the customers true needs are the answer.


October 13, 2009
In response to: Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1
Sare commented:

I agree that the fewer middlemen involved, the better price one should be able to realize as a buyer. But there are a lot of different models that have evolved and for different buyers, direct may not be best because of scale, breadth of products offered, services, transporation, et. al. (Maybe that's your next blog). A few clarifications: "A similar example in the corrugated industry is an integrated plant able to create corrugated sheets from pulp and form them into boxes, trays, pads, etc." Integration is in the eyes of the beholder. In corrugated, today it's generally assumed to be a company that makes its own linerboard and/or medium. It used to be a company that owned and controlled its woodlands as well, though today many large paper companies have monetized their forest assets and purchase the furnish for making pulp through long-term contracts. "Even the way a plant is typically laid out proves it is designed to have pulp come in one door on one end of the plant and leave the opposite end as finished boxes, sheets, etc., sometimes within a matter of hours." No box plant starts with pulp. The scale of making paper is much too large to do it under one roof with a corrugator at the other end of the paper machine. Corrugated plants start with rolls of containerboard. Sheet plants start with combined sheets of specified dimensions. Looking forward to Part 2...


October 1, 2009
In response to: Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1
Dennis Salazar commented:

Henry, that is an excellent comment and one I plan to cover in part 2 of this post. Local, technical service support is indeed a benefit of working with a distributor rather than a manufacturer or converter. Thanks for the noote. Dennis


September 30, 2009
In response to: Should End Users Buy Their Packaging from a Factory, Converter or Distributor? Part 1
Henry Wischsuen commented:

I agree with your assessment. I will add that is is very important to know what you are buying. Not just the primary specifications but all of the critical specification that will have an impact on your operation. I have seen cases where the package user has saved money purchasing direct from the manufacturer but gave up those dollars because of machinery performance problems. They did not realize at the time that the changes in the undocumented specifications actually were the root cause of the problems.

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